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IT Looks to Spend Money on Cloud, Services in 2013

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batye
batye
11/20/2012 12:16:06 PM
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Re: More on IT spending
yes, unless the vendors/manf. get together and conspire to inflate the prices  like in case of LCD monitors in 2005 class action case...

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smasood
smasood
11/20/2012 11:43:50 AM
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Re: More on IT spending
Oh yes the pricing! It is much more competitive with a few vendors as opposed to one vendor who believes in premium pricing. 

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batye
batye
11/20/2012 11:22:05 AM
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Re: More on IT spending
I could not say if it good or bad dependency on Amazon it just when you have healthy competition you have more option and better prices - sometimes :), but only with time we will know if it good or bad :)

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smasood
smasood
11/20/2012 11:06:17 AM
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Re: More on IT spending
batye, is all that dependency on Amazon bad? We have other industries where there are sole service providers during the initial phases and usually these are the ones' that eventually become the market leaders. 

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smasood
smasood
11/20/2012 11:01:28 AM
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Re: More on IT spending
Scott, if you are a small business and completely dependent on Amazon for your infrastructure than I believe you must inevitably face downtime. The question is how much do you lose for every second of downtime? If small firms can manage during the break downs with manual or traditional software than they would continue with the cloud based solutions. Else they might consider switching to traditional in house infrastructure. 

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batye
batye
11/20/2012 1:56:05 AM
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Re: More on IT spending
yes, but it all related to Amazon selling it cloud via sub-providers and it create hard dependency on Amazon - so to say... until over big SaaS/Cloud players decide to compete with Amazon...

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goafrit
goafrit
11/19/2012 7:38:49 PM
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Re: More on IT spending
@Scott, as a knowledge expert who talks to both SMEs and mid-range companies, I always begin by asking them this question - show me your failure records before you moved to cloud. In other words, before you moved to Amazon and was housing and running your IT services in-houe, can you show you your uptime. Nearly all that kept records perform worse than Amazon. Of course when you pay for things and someone is doing it, you will expect the problem to go away. That is the human nature.

There is no person that can promise 100%. However, I am not aware of any company that delivers what Amazon has. It gets bad press but the alternative is not better in terms of cost and service. The only guarantee is that you can shout at your staff to get the server up when it is Amazon, you send annoying emails or call on phone. On bad days, they will not even pick the calls and everyone is frustrated. But when it comes to business, cloud is simply unbeatable. That is what data shows and that is what market responds to. If you are on cloud, you can focus on your business, deliver services cheaper and be more competitive.

And remember, I am not aware of any free email that is not on cloud. Since 1995, we have been on cloud and we need to get used to some of these issues on uptime. The #1 rule - always assume that things will go bad and have a mini-strategy to serve at least you key customer. That is why some companies do cloud visualization where at the end of the day, you synchronize with two services so that if one goes down, you will be good.

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HMC
HMC
11/19/2012 7:08:52 PM
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Re: Where Are Your IT dollars going
Before we can answer where the dollars are going, we first need to catch up with the changing definitions of various cloud services.  The most prevalent example of this is the whole concept of "private cloud" which is no longer the equivalent of IaaS.  Now that Microsoft has computed the mix of on-prem licensing revenue they require versus subscription cloud services they've announced that Windows Server 2012 and System Center 2012 provide the "Cloud OS". Welcome back to license land.

Looks like the NIST definition of cloud will be the arbiter of what we consider cloud.  Elasticity, self-service, the layer of abstraction between the user and the technology, these define cloud now, not physical separation. 

So when we ask where our IT dollars are going, hardware is once again an option!

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Scott Ferguson
Scott Ferguson
11/19/2012 3:40:26 PM
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Re: More on IT spending
What gives me concern is that these outages seem to occur a lot. Every time Amazon EC2 goes down, it creates major headlines and what happens if you are a small business dependent on Amazon for your infrastructure?

 

 

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smasood
smasood
11/19/2012 12:08:49 PM
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Keith, the cloud is in its early stages but it has already been put to a lot of questioning. Fortunately, no major disaster has been observed but I think even if something bad occurs it will not impact its future potential. All technologies are prone to disasters. The ones that flourish are those that evolve and do not repeat their mistakes. 

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